Canadian_Dream
07-08 09:07 PM
Macaca:
The anticipated demand (that is calculated based on Pending Applications, New Applications that might become approvable and plethora of other factors including guess work) on Oct 1 2005/Oct 1 2006 was MUCH higher than 140,000 that was available for the entire year. Infact you have to break 140,000 into four quarters and apply contry quota (7%) to it since EB-3 ROW was not current on these dates. Thus it was hardly a surprise that India and China and EB-3 ROW remained retrogress on these dates.
Now fast forward to June 2007, there were 40,000 visa available in that last quarter and EB-3 ROW was in no position to consume that many that means spillover would come to India and China EB3/EB3 or else visa would be wasted in big numbers. The solution was to increase the supply and hence everything was current overnight. Until USCIS came in to spoil the party. They didn't do it in any simple way instead they choose the route of complete exhashtion and hence shutting the door.
Bottom line is: Unless demand for EB-3 ROW subsides (or it becomes current leaving substantial numbers for spillover) India EB-2 will always be cap subjected to 3200 or so visas every year. The sad part is catching up with the demand for EB-3 ROW is a moving target and thus EB-2 India might NEVER qualify for spillovers. I hope I am proved wrong by someone who has more insight.
140K GCs were available on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 2006: categories were not current.
< 40K GCs were available on June 12 2007: all categories were current.
If there is a law to prevent acceptance of ALL AOS's on Oct 1 (when 140K GCs are available) then that law was violated on June 12 2007.
If there is no law to prevent acceptance of AOS's on June 12 (when < 40K GCs were available) then all categories should have been current on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 1 2006.
The anticipated demand (that is calculated based on Pending Applications, New Applications that might become approvable and plethora of other factors including guess work) on Oct 1 2005/Oct 1 2006 was MUCH higher than 140,000 that was available for the entire year. Infact you have to break 140,000 into four quarters and apply contry quota (7%) to it since EB-3 ROW was not current on these dates. Thus it was hardly a surprise that India and China and EB-3 ROW remained retrogress on these dates.
Now fast forward to June 2007, there were 40,000 visa available in that last quarter and EB-3 ROW was in no position to consume that many that means spillover would come to India and China EB3/EB3 or else visa would be wasted in big numbers. The solution was to increase the supply and hence everything was current overnight. Until USCIS came in to spoil the party. They didn't do it in any simple way instead they choose the route of complete exhashtion and hence shutting the door.
Bottom line is: Unless demand for EB-3 ROW subsides (or it becomes current leaving substantial numbers for spillover) India EB-2 will always be cap subjected to 3200 or so visas every year. The sad part is catching up with the demand for EB-3 ROW is a moving target and thus EB-2 India might NEVER qualify for spillovers. I hope I am proved wrong by someone who has more insight.
140K GCs were available on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 2006: categories were not current.
< 40K GCs were available on June 12 2007: all categories were current.
If there is a law to prevent acceptance of ALL AOS's on Oct 1 (when 140K GCs are available) then that law was violated on June 12 2007.
If there is no law to prevent acceptance of AOS's on June 12 (when < 40K GCs were available) then all categories should have been current on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 1 2006.
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sanjeev
06-18 12:53 PM
Just heard from my employer checks cleared on 15th June
Mailed to NSC on: 1st June
Mailed From State: VA
Received at NSC on: June 4th
140 approved from : NSC
Receipt Date : Still Waiting
Priority Date Sept 2002
Mailed to NSC on: 1st June
Mailed From State: VA
Received at NSC on: June 4th
140 approved from : NSC
Receipt Date : Still Waiting
Priority Date Sept 2002
fide_champ
04-20 09:34 PM
Report them to USCIS and blacklist them. They don't get anything by suing you. They have more to lose if you report them to USCIS.
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tamil12
07-19 05:33 PM
how to use the spillover is purely an USCIS decision. Only to use the spillover to avoid wastage is a law, which is already in place. Infact USCIS was not doing this top down approach on spill over few years ago, this is a new practice they are following since last Fiscal Year, so I strongly believe if Congressmen/women puts pressure/more request it can be changed to a fair application of visa spillover to benefit all that are in the queue for a long wait.
Well Said..
The Spill over changed from the Year 2007 ...It will be Fair to allocate the spill over Visa to oldest PD for the Retrogessed country.
Well Said..
The Spill over changed from the Year 2007 ...It will be Fair to allocate the spill over Visa to oldest PD for the Retrogessed country.
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ca_immigrant
02-07 05:54 PM
I think culture vs quality of life is a different thing.
I am not saying that one place is better than the other...
There are many things for which I love living in the US...long list...
there are many things for which I love living in India...I think the list might not be as long as the US one....
2 of the main things I miss in the US.
1. Parents , Siblings and extended family....I do not know how much time anyone will have for me if I were to go back -:)
2. Culuture...mainly for the kids...here once the kids are 10 or 11 I think you cannot tell them anything much...they have thier own mind and will not listen to you....and might end up making wrong decisions...again not saying that this is 100% safe in India...but agian in India I think the kids listen to you till they are a little older....this helps as they might be a little more mature by then and hopefully will make more wise decisions...
Again, I am not saying life is easier or better in one place compared to the other...
If I were to go back to India (which is what we plan to do in 2 years from now) then it will be becuase of the 2 main reasons above...I really wish there was a work around for the 2 above and I would then stay back -:)
Both are great countries with plus and minus....
Peace !!!
All the best to all my friends here (the ones who stay and the ones who go back ) !!
I am not saying that one place is better than the other...
There are many things for which I love living in the US...long list...
there are many things for which I love living in India...I think the list might not be as long as the US one....
2 of the main things I miss in the US.
1. Parents , Siblings and extended family....I do not know how much time anyone will have for me if I were to go back -:)
2. Culuture...mainly for the kids...here once the kids are 10 or 11 I think you cannot tell them anything much...they have thier own mind and will not listen to you....and might end up making wrong decisions...again not saying that this is 100% safe in India...but agian in India I think the kids listen to you till they are a little older....this helps as they might be a little more mature by then and hopefully will make more wise decisions...
Again, I am not saying life is easier or better in one place compared to the other...
If I were to go back to India (which is what we plan to do in 2 years from now) then it will be becuase of the 2 main reasons above...I really wish there was a work around for the 2 above and I would then stay back -:)
Both are great countries with plus and minus....
Peace !!!
All the best to all my friends here (the ones who stay and the ones who go back ) !!
joydiptac
07-21 03:42 PM
On the one side you have the EB2. Earning more, and better educated. Clearly more important human beings to IRS and society. On the other we have EB3 Junta trying to get what they think is their right to spillover.
Now I understand all your points and agree with all of them.
Only 1 question :D why is IV not fighting to increase the regular (non spillover) quota for the clearly better category EB2. This is clearly not fair such super humans having to share same numbers as lower categories. Lower categories should go to Bombay where there is one apartment which is still empty.
Or better still get rid of the EB3 category altogether. Problem is solved! :D
You know you guys are really funny. :D
Now I understand all your points and agree with all of them.
Only 1 question :D why is IV not fighting to increase the regular (non spillover) quota for the clearly better category EB2. This is clearly not fair such super humans having to share same numbers as lower categories. Lower categories should go to Bombay where there is one apartment which is still empty.
Or better still get rid of the EB3 category altogether. Problem is solved! :D
You know you guys are really funny. :D
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WeShallOvercome
10-08 03:09 PM
We are all missing a point here.
Someone with a PD of 2006 who filed his/her AOS in 2006 should be far ahead in processing compared to someone with a PD of 2001(or who has been in the country for the last 20 years) but applied just a week ago.
Should USCIS hold the first case and wait for the other case to reach that stage? They can certainly do that if we don't blame them for wasting visa numbers every year.
It's not as simple as it sounds --Give GC to those old timers before the new comers!
Having said that, It certainly makes more sense to have some system which would atleast honestly attempt to be fair to the old timers.
BTW, I'm an old timer myself, 7th year in the country and a PD of 2003.
I would rather have them approve ANY case instead of wasting a single visa number.
Someone with a PD of 2006 who filed his/her AOS in 2006 should be far ahead in processing compared to someone with a PD of 2001(or who has been in the country for the last 20 years) but applied just a week ago.
Should USCIS hold the first case and wait for the other case to reach that stage? They can certainly do that if we don't blame them for wasting visa numbers every year.
It's not as simple as it sounds --Give GC to those old timers before the new comers!
Having said that, It certainly makes more sense to have some system which would atleast honestly attempt to be fair to the old timers.
BTW, I'm an old timer myself, 7th year in the country and a PD of 2003.
I would rather have them approve ANY case instead of wasting a single visa number.
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gcspace
10-03 10:05 AM
If you are still waiting then please add your name
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
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lutherpraveen
PDOCT05
i99
helpme1234
kingnaga
waitforgc123
Rohan99
gclongwaytogo
cool_cat
sivanu
GKBest
bluesky1
July 5th
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chalamcharla
July 16, 9:00 am at Nebraska signed by R Pitcher
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viveckj99
gcspace
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I added mine to the list
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
--------------------------------------------------------
lutherpraveen
PDOCT05
i99
helpme1234
kingnaga
waitforgc123
Rohan99
gclongwaytogo
cool_cat
sivanu
GKBest
bluesky1
July 5th
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chalamcharla
July 16, 9:00 am at Nebraska signed by R Pitcher
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viveckj99
gcspace
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I added mine to the list
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xela
02-15 08:07 AM
Call them a lot of us did, when we got moved from one center (receipt notice) to another for processing. You should get a FP notice soon after you talked to them!
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JazzByTheBay
12-17 11:21 AM
Acquired Immigration-Related Extreme Depression (AIRED)
Like AIDS, it has no permanent cure for the time being.
However, like many pharmaceutical companies and research institutions involved in finding a cure for AIDS, IV is working on a project to cure retrogression (equivalent of the HIV virus that causes AIDS).
Like AIDS, there are no time lines, promises, or guarantees that a cure will be found for AIRED. However, patients report some improvements with formulations like EAD and AP. :)
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Like AIDS, it has no permanent cure for the time being.
However, like many pharmaceutical companies and research institutions involved in finding a cure for AIDS, IV is working on a project to cure retrogression (equivalent of the HIV virus that causes AIDS).
Like AIDS, there are no time lines, promises, or guarantees that a cure will be found for AIRED. However, patients report some improvements with formulations like EAD and AP. :)
jazz
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smohan
07-20 03:51 AM
hello anzerraja
By putting date coloumn in the Excel sheet, this sheet will provide a reader the trend in the pledge making. Most of the techies are always curious...sniff-sniff type you know.
thanks
Thanks Mohan !!!
By putting date coloumn in the Excel sheet, this sheet will provide a reader the trend in the pledge making. Most of the techies are always curious...sniff-sniff type you know.
thanks
Thanks Mohan !!!
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ramus
07-07 10:17 PM
Please mention how many members from family..
IF we get minimum 1000 then we can talk to core members.
I think we should have a poll for DC rally and it should be on IV home page so that every visitor know about it and poll.
IF we get minimum 1000 then we can talk to core members.
I think we should have a poll for DC rally and it should be on IV home page so that every visitor know about it and poll.
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snthampi
02-03 11:27 AM
[QUOTE=snthampi;2311346]
:D
Good Luck trying to explain reservation system to the USCIS to implement your plan! How many years would we have to wait - for the USCIS to learn the system and execute it :D
Kidding too!
Good one! You are right. It might take them 10 years to understand the system and then 10 years to implement it. By then many of us will be retired.
:D
Good Luck trying to explain reservation system to the USCIS to implement your plan! How many years would we have to wait - for the USCIS to learn the system and execute it :D
Kidding too!
Good one! You are right. It might take them 10 years to understand the system and then 10 years to implement it. By then many of us will be retired.
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wandmaker
08-10 01:11 PM
As a token of appreciation - I have contributed $100 to IV just now.Receipt ID: 1467-8132-5592-9911. Request all of those who get GC this month to contribute some $ amount.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
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GCcomesoon
06-13 04:07 PM
I got my receipts by mail on monday and checks cashed last friday. But my wifes did not clear yet. any one in similar situation please post.
My one set of checks cleared last friday & other set yet to be cleared. That might be for me or wife, no idea. So I'm waiting.
How are you so sure that your case checks were cashed & not your wife's just curious.
Thanks
GCcomesoon
My one set of checks cleared last friday & other set yet to be cleared. That might be for me or wife, no idea. So I'm waiting.
How are you so sure that your case checks were cashed & not your wife's just curious.
Thanks
GCcomesoon
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GCcomesoon
06-13 04:07 PM
I got my receipts by mail on monday and checks cashed last friday. But my wifes did not clear yet. any one in similar situation please post.
My one set of checks cleared last friday & other set yet to be cleared. That might be for me or wife, no idea. So I'm waiting.
How are you so sure that your case checks were cashed & not your wife's just curious.
Thanks
GCcomesoon
My one set of checks cleared last friday & other set yet to be cleared. That might be for me or wife, no idea. So I'm waiting.
How are you so sure that your case checks were cashed & not your wife's just curious.
Thanks
GCcomesoon
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SunnySurya
08-18 02:39 PM
That is absolutely correct!I thought SunnySurya is talking about Processing application based on Priority dates which is applicable to Any Employement or Even family categories, with respect to Quota for that catagories..
So guys hang on Your swords. Its not EB3 or EB2 or EB1.
So guys hang on Your swords. Its not EB3 or EB2 or EB1.
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 04:19 PM
Hi Ahimsa and other poster who questioned this:
Why SKULL bill ? As a high level manager I have learned after years of experience that you need to use good sense of humor, satirize when confronted with insanities and very stressful situations. In my life such a twaddle this immigration process has been that I need to come up to this forum and sometimes make some of us laugh a little bit from this situation. Calling it SKULL bill is a way to apply my sense of humor to this process. Please do not take this as an offense.
Please, please. Folks, didn't you see immigration-law.com and AILA.org - a reliable pro immigration sources - outlining that that anti CIR calls outnumbered the pro CIR calls 400:1 ? Go to AILA.org and research the info there by yourself if you don't trust me.
One more indication for you, which doesn't rely on biased polls:
In spite of massive lobby and muscles leveraged by the corporate sector, why do you think immigration bills - both pro legal and pro illegal - have been unsuccessful in the last two years ? Come on guys, by now you should not be questioning whether the public is against amnesty or even legal immigration. It is evident that the majority of citizens do not benefit from more immigration. Do you have an idea how much lobbying $ got involved on this without much success so far ? I am surprised that you are even raising this question. Why Americans should want more foreigners to compete with them when the real wages have declined ? That would defy logic.
Here, a fresh related evidence. Those who have an open mind should be able to understand this:
http://diversity.monster.com/articles/coming_to_america/?WT.mc_n=MNL000283
Does the Workplace Welcome Differ?
Are Americans more welcoming to Asian immigrants than to Hispanics/Latinos? C.N. Le, who directs the Asian American Studies Program at the University of Massachusetts, calls it "a complicated issue." She thinks that "Americans in general are becoming slightly less welcoming to immigrants in general. Part of it has to do with illegal immigration, but it spills over and affects legal immigrants too. There is always workplace tension between those who gets jobs, and those who get left out."
Talk about this article and get advice on the Diversity at Work message board.
Here is a fresh poll for you, since you asked:
source:numbersusa.com (the poll was not conducted by numbersusa.com though).
QUESTION A: If immigration continues at its current level for the next 50 years, experts estimate that it will add approximately 100 million people to the United States population, which currently is 300 million. Knowing this, would you say the country needs to:
% SAYING
NOTE: Typically, poll results for categories are released to the public in rounded numbers that will tend not to add up precisely to 100%.
REDUCE number of immigrants INCREASE number of immigrants Keep number the same Not sure
ALL VOTERS 64 3 26 6
Male 64 3 26 6
Female 65 2 26 6
PARTY
Democrat 59 2 32 6
Independent 59 4 31 4
Republican
1. Why do you keep mentioning SKIL bill clearly as SKULL bill in all your posts?
2. Did people clearly indicate they did not want reliefs for EB immigrants - did they accept Lou Dobbs' lies on H-1B such as "H-1Bs do not pay taxes, are cheap labor, are stealing american jobs"?
Why SKULL bill ? As a high level manager I have learned after years of experience that you need to use good sense of humor, satirize when confronted with insanities and very stressful situations. In my life such a twaddle this immigration process has been that I need to come up to this forum and sometimes make some of us laugh a little bit from this situation. Calling it SKULL bill is a way to apply my sense of humor to this process. Please do not take this as an offense.
Please, please. Folks, didn't you see immigration-law.com and AILA.org - a reliable pro immigration sources - outlining that that anti CIR calls outnumbered the pro CIR calls 400:1 ? Go to AILA.org and research the info there by yourself if you don't trust me.
One more indication for you, which doesn't rely on biased polls:
In spite of massive lobby and muscles leveraged by the corporate sector, why do you think immigration bills - both pro legal and pro illegal - have been unsuccessful in the last two years ? Come on guys, by now you should not be questioning whether the public is against amnesty or even legal immigration. It is evident that the majority of citizens do not benefit from more immigration. Do you have an idea how much lobbying $ got involved on this without much success so far ? I am surprised that you are even raising this question. Why Americans should want more foreigners to compete with them when the real wages have declined ? That would defy logic.
Here, a fresh related evidence. Those who have an open mind should be able to understand this:
http://diversity.monster.com/articles/coming_to_america/?WT.mc_n=MNL000283
Does the Workplace Welcome Differ?
Are Americans more welcoming to Asian immigrants than to Hispanics/Latinos? C.N. Le, who directs the Asian American Studies Program at the University of Massachusetts, calls it "a complicated issue." She thinks that "Americans in general are becoming slightly less welcoming to immigrants in general. Part of it has to do with illegal immigration, but it spills over and affects legal immigrants too. There is always workplace tension between those who gets jobs, and those who get left out."
Talk about this article and get advice on the Diversity at Work message board.
Here is a fresh poll for you, since you asked:
source:numbersusa.com (the poll was not conducted by numbersusa.com though).
QUESTION A: If immigration continues at its current level for the next 50 years, experts estimate that it will add approximately 100 million people to the United States population, which currently is 300 million. Knowing this, would you say the country needs to:
% SAYING
NOTE: Typically, poll results for categories are released to the public in rounded numbers that will tend not to add up precisely to 100%.
REDUCE number of immigrants INCREASE number of immigrants Keep number the same Not sure
ALL VOTERS 64 3 26 6
Male 64 3 26 6
Female 65 2 26 6
PARTY
Democrat 59 2 32 6
Independent 59 4 31 4
Republican
1. Why do you keep mentioning SKIL bill clearly as SKULL bill in all your posts?
2. Did people clearly indicate they did not want reliefs for EB immigrants - did they accept Lou Dobbs' lies on H-1B such as "H-1Bs do not pay taxes, are cheap labor, are stealing american jobs"?
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santhu
07-03 04:13 PM
Hi Everybody
I'm almost at checkout for sending flowers. Interestingly I noticed that there are other forums where people are discussing the immigration issues and also where people are effected.
Lets make it a massive campaign. We can have a link on the immigration voice home page with exact details on the address and date (final) and impress on people that it shall work.
I noticed that many Chinese use other forums in Chinese language. In fact I requested one of friends to post these details in their forum as well. May be each one of us can forward the details to others by E-mail or other wise. Try to make 10th July as big day for USCIS leaving all document packages aside but busy handling the roses.
Media would definitely be happy discussing the approach for days and in way discuss the issue as well.
Flowers do bring smile and a little bit of introspection to every one.
Lets do it big way.
Thanks
I'm almost at checkout for sending flowers. Interestingly I noticed that there are other forums where people are discussing the immigration issues and also where people are effected.
Lets make it a massive campaign. We can have a link on the immigration voice home page with exact details on the address and date (final) and impress on people that it shall work.
I noticed that many Chinese use other forums in Chinese language. In fact I requested one of friends to post these details in their forum as well. May be each one of us can forward the details to others by E-mail or other wise. Try to make 10th July as big day for USCIS leaving all document packages aside but busy handling the roses.
Media would definitely be happy discussing the approach for days and in way discuss the issue as well.
Flowers do bring smile and a little bit of introspection to every one.
Lets do it big way.
Thanks
tonyHK12
02-24 01:45 PM
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Total Contributions...........$8,625.00
Amount to be raised.......$41,375.00
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Total Contributions...........$8,625.00
Amount to be raised.......$41,375.00
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alterego
12-12 05:50 PM
That is exactly my point. I mean even if the H1B quota DOES increase, is it more harm or good?
The new H1Bs will go at the back of the line, but atleast a lot of the people here like spouses on h4 might get a fighting chance to get new H1s? Somehow I dont see how an increase in the H1 quota can negatively affect us EB folk. Now dont get me wrong that is NOT all I want and nothing would please me more if the EB quota was increased as well. All I am saying is, let us not totally oppose the H1B increases just because most of us on here already have one. Half of the spouses on here can start working the minute the H1B quota is increased. Moreover stuedents already here can start working and dont have to be at the mercy of the H1b quota to graduate etc.
Let me tell you how it can affect you. In an ideal system it will not affect you, but in this one you can't say.
There are folks here who arrived 11 yrs ago who do not have a green card yet. On the other hand there are those that came in 2002 who are sailing pretty. The fact that this is happening and that FIFO is a fallacy, that is proof that it will hurt us.
Here are a few reasons.
1)More H1bs coming from non retrogressed countries will keep siphoning off the visa numbers and limit spillover which we desperately need absent legislation to get out of this hole.
2)As long as the crazy practice of Labour Subs continues, there will always be those youngsters who arrive, grab/buy/are peddled a Labour Sub. cut to the front of the line and move on, while you and I sit sobbing at our fates.
3)As H1bs coming here and not getting green cards becomes entrenched in the minds of employers, they will see you as such and be reluctant to sponsor you for a green card. H1b changes into a vehicle for short term workers much like the J1 visa for resident physicians.
4)L visas are frequently converted to H1bs as a precursor to green card petitioning.
The new H1Bs will go at the back of the line, but atleast a lot of the people here like spouses on h4 might get a fighting chance to get new H1s? Somehow I dont see how an increase in the H1 quota can negatively affect us EB folk. Now dont get me wrong that is NOT all I want and nothing would please me more if the EB quota was increased as well. All I am saying is, let us not totally oppose the H1B increases just because most of us on here already have one. Half of the spouses on here can start working the minute the H1B quota is increased. Moreover stuedents already here can start working and dont have to be at the mercy of the H1b quota to graduate etc.
Let me tell you how it can affect you. In an ideal system it will not affect you, but in this one you can't say.
There are folks here who arrived 11 yrs ago who do not have a green card yet. On the other hand there are those that came in 2002 who are sailing pretty. The fact that this is happening and that FIFO is a fallacy, that is proof that it will hurt us.
Here are a few reasons.
1)More H1bs coming from non retrogressed countries will keep siphoning off the visa numbers and limit spillover which we desperately need absent legislation to get out of this hole.
2)As long as the crazy practice of Labour Subs continues, there will always be those youngsters who arrive, grab/buy/are peddled a Labour Sub. cut to the front of the line and move on, while you and I sit sobbing at our fates.
3)As H1bs coming here and not getting green cards becomes entrenched in the minds of employers, they will see you as such and be reluctant to sponsor you for a green card. H1b changes into a vehicle for short term workers much like the J1 visa for resident physicians.
4)L visas are frequently converted to H1bs as a precursor to green card petitioning.
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